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Offline Brad  
#106 Posted : Monday, June 17, 2019 5:25:37 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Dan Carroll Go to Quoted Post
Wow Brad that sounds interesting....

So you use rPi with some kind of remote desktop software to control it?

I think I can introduce you to a few features that will really help you out...
First off, Score! already has the ability to serve the results


I’m just running Score on the RPi and putting scores in with a keyboard and mouse. I have experimented with remote desktop software that I can run on a laptop, ipad, iphone, etc, but its still restricted to a single user running the program. When I run the results, I also send the reports to the web directory with Apache running the web service. (I assume thats what you mean by serving the results). I was actually the one pushing to retain that feature in the updated program a couple years ago.

I only have one Ipad, and don’t envision purchasing another one anytime soon. But nearly everyone has a smartphone these days. I’d like to find a way to leverage that.

Brad
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#107 Posted : Monday, June 17, 2019 5:47:56 PM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Brad Go to Quoted Post
I’m just running Score on the RPi and putting scores in with a keyboard and mouse. I have experimented with remote desktop software that I can run on a laptop, ipad, iphone, etc, but its still restricted to a single user running the program. When I run the results, I also send the reports to the web directory with Apache running the web service. (I assume thats what you mean by serving the results). I was actually the one pushing to retain that feature in the updated program a couple years ago.

I only have one Ipad, and don’t envision purchasing another one anytime soon. But nearly everyone has a smartphone these days. I’d like to find a way to leverage that.

Brad


Oh I see... That means you pack a monitor, keyboard and mouse as well,...
That would work...

I remember talking to you about the results stuff last year. I did add the 'publish to directory' feature which I assume you're using?

I've been using uBuntu on rPi's with AnyConnect as the remote desktop software. Not sure how fun it would be controlling with a tablet (unless you had a keyboard). Your way is probably easier.

As for the iPad, I'll be in touch to help you get it installed. I will post a message in the slack group explaining how to do it. Play around with one first, and if you are keen to give it a go at a comp, perhaps there is someone else who regularly goes to comps who might also have one?

The person who originally authored ScorePad created a lot of graphics for the background of the app... Because of this it does not scale that well to different screen ratios... On top of that there is a bit of work needed for me to port it to Android... It's on my list todo but I have not been able to get to it yet.
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#108 Posted : Monday, June 17, 2019 6:00:27 PM(UTC)
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I just have it all setup in my trailer. 30” flatscreen for the monitor plugs into the Rpi. USB mouse and keyboard, and a belkin router.

I’m thinking with the score program resident on the rpi, just a simple interface program on the phone that writes the data from the judge. No need to have Score running on the phone, just the interface (shim as you call it) and have Score check for new data on some periodicity.

Brad
Offline Dan Carroll  
#109 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:37:39 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Brad Go to Quoted Post
I just have it all setup in my trailer. 30” flatscreen for the monitor plugs into the Rpi. USB mouse and keyboard, and a belkin router.

I’m thinking with the score program resident on the rpi, just a simple interface program on the phone that writes the data from the judge. No need to have Score running on the phone, just the interface (shim as you call it) and have Score check for new data on some periodicity.

Brad


Sounds like a nice setup...
ScorePad doesn't use the 'shim' software. That is for Notaumatics.
The way it (ScorePad) works is like this:


  1. Enter your pilots, unknowns etc into Score!
    [*}Start Score's internal webserver (can be on another port if you already have Apache running on port 80)
  2. In ScorePad, under the setup page, click "Clear All" to delete the old data. Then "Find Comp" to locate the Score computer. And finally "Get Pilots" to put the pilot list on ScorePad.
  3. Tell ScorePad what flight line and judge number it is and click "Home".


That's it... You can shut down your Score computer or turn off the router until you are ready to download the scores from ScorePad....

Not sure if I made it clear before, but ScorePad is not really for the judges to use. That's probably the main drawback. It's really for the Scribes to use...

If a CD wants to run a comp where the judges enter the scores directly without scribes then that's when you use Score together with FlightLine (the shim) and some devices (Notaumatic or Peter Vogels app).

I've said many times before, some CDs like ScorePad (most who have used it actually because it is what they are used to as we have had it for many years) and some like NotauMatic (mainly because you can do it without Scribes, it has tactile buttons, and the devices are not very expensive compared to iPads).

I am happy to support both because I can see the benefits of both.
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#110 Posted : Tuesday, June 18, 2019 1:42:24 AM(UTC)
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Originally Posted by: Chuck Edwards Go to Quoted Post
Vince,

IMAC cannot stomach the cost or see a viable way to convert score to work with it...


Like Adi said, we have two options already and I plan to add Peter's device to the list as soon as I have time to put into it. I don't see the problem as 'which do we choose.' as Adi said... Each region / country / CD can choose the ones they want as far as I am concerned.

One question I am not sure has been answered about Peter's system is if you can still get the Logitech devices brand new (or are they end of life) ... If not, perhaps he has an alternative in the works...
I might send him an email now to ask.

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